Village Hall – Pre Planning Submitted

Modified site plan, including tentative parking proposal near the church

Our Pre Planning Application for the new hall has now been submitted to East Lothian Council. As per the advice from our architects, we recently withdrew the original Planning Application, in order to give ourselves time to resolve some of the issues that were raised by ELC. The two main points were the provision of sufficient parking, and amount of the existing stone wall that was proposed to be taken down (even though the material was to be reused).

OCA would like to be clear that although this Pre Planning Application is an official process with ELC, the general purpose of such applications is to facilitate a detailed conversion with the council, allowing applicants to get some feedback on what is likely to be accepted or not, but without any final commitment to the submitted drawings. As such, the plans we are sharing here (although identical to our original submission in most details!) do not officially represent definite design choices at this point.

Despite this, we wanted to share the submission with the community, as it does represent a big positive step forward!

The documents that CSY have drawn up for this are considerably more extensive than the last submission. You can download and read the entire pack here. The major changes are those pictured in this post: the addition of a parking area and potential EV charging points near the church, and the reconstruction of a larger length of stone wall to the west of the new hall – (K) in the image below, and also (J), where the stone is now used in the construction of the front steps. Much more has also been included on the heritage and conservation status of the village, which will be important in ensuring parking solutions are sympathetic to the green and the village.

Modified front elevation, including rebuilding and reusing more of the original stone wall material

The next steps are to wait for written feedback from ELC and to organise a site meeting with a council representative. Both are expected in January. CSY feel sure that this will help us overcome any remaining issues and get us back to a full Planning Application.

As always, questions or comments are welcome. Please email info@oldhamstocks.org.uk.

Committee meeting, October 3rd 2023

Highlights: CSY have contacted with ELC Planning and Roads to clear up apparent contradictions vs published Planning Standards regarding the parking requirements for the new hall. Awaiting response. Various parking schemes have been discussed between CSY and OCA. The point of maintaining the conservation status of the village green has been raised as a strong counter to the most obvious parking locations. Land purchase price agreed – just waiting on precise legal fees.

Meeting minutes 3.10.23

Hall Planning temporarily withdrawn

The committee would like to announce that unfortunately, we have had to temporarily withdraw the Planning Application for the new hall. Provisional feedback from East Lothian Council raised some points that needed addressing before the application could be considered in full. This is of course very commonly the case with Planning Applications, and was fully expected. With CSY’s guidance, we were able to address many of the points raised, but some questions remained, such as the provision of suitable parking space and what is planned for the existing stone wall at the edge of the green.

With an impending deadline, CSY advised that it would be better to withdraw the application for now, rather than press ahead and be denied, which can look unfavourable on subsequent resubmissions.

 What is planned now is to prepare a ‘pre-planning’ application, including requesting an on-site meeting with both the ELC planners and Roads Department. This should allow all parties to be clearer on requirements and opportunities and allow us to then resubmit our Planning Application with much more certainty in the outcome.

It’s not the news we were hoping to be able to share with you of course, but CSY remain confident of finding a positive solution and getting us through this big step in the process.

Any updates will be shared as soon as possible!

Local Place Plan: Your community needs your ideas!

Did you know that East Lothian Council is putting together a 10 year strategy to develop our area, called a Local Development Plan?

The communities of East Lammermuir now have the opportunity to influence that LDP with our own Local Place Plans. But we must do it now! We must submit any LPPs by October this year.

  • Local Place Plans are a new type of plan (introduced by the Planning (Scotland) Act 2019) giving communities the opportunity to create proposals for the development and use of land in their place, enabling communities to focus on their aspirations as well as their needs. 
  • While Local Place Plans may touch upon any issue that relates to a particular place, the core focus should be on the development and use of land, for example, housing land allocation or the design of new public green space
  • You can see general guidance about Local Place Plans here: https://www.pas.org.uk/what-we-do/community-led-plans/

There are two ways that you give your input to our Local Place Plan…

Please please please, fill in ELCC’s Local Place Plan survey here: www.bit.ly/ELCC-LLP This is where you can put all your ideas for the local area down on ‘paper’. (Actual paper copies are available!)

Alternatively, (or additionally!) please come along to one of the public discussion sessions, detailed in the leaflet below.

This is an important opportunity to influence the major developments that we are going to see in the coming years. Please share this widely – it’s open to all!

Committee meeting, September 6th 2023

Highlights: Community meetings for the Local Place Plan were arranged. ELC have replied to the village hall Planning Application with some concerns. Key objections, amongst other points, were lack of new parking, and the moving of stone material from the existing village green wall. CSY have advised that we should withdraw the application and submit a Pre Planning application, which should facilitate more detailed discussions with ELC. OCA have agreed to this.

Meeting minutes 6.9.23

Update on Fire at Landfill Site, Dunbar

An update from East Lothian Council:

Good afternoon all,

In addition to public communications the Council are about to issue I wanted to give you an update on the fire currently burning at the landfill site at Dunbar.

SEPA are the lead agency in respect of regulating the site and have been onsite today, actively assessing the situation along with colleagues from SFRS and ELC Environmental Health Services.  SEPA have confirmed that the site is authorised to dispose of non-hazardous waste. 

Following these assessments a multi-agency Incident Response Group meeting involving key partner agencies including SEPA, Scottish Fire and Rescue Service, NHS Lothian, Police Scotland and Council Services was held to discuss and update information on the incident and agree on public messaging.  

While the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service continue to monitor the situation, the fire is ‘under control and being managed by the site operator, though may continue to burn for many days.’

SEPA have ensured the operator is taking all necessary measures and have provided advice and guidance on mitigations, alongside colleagues from the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service.

SEPA and the ELC Environmental Health Service will remain on site over the coming days to monitor both the fire and the smoke plume alongside CHEMET reports from Met Office colleagues while Incident Response Group meetings will continue as required.

The current wind direction is blowing the plume of smoke away from main housing areas while general health advice is to keep windows closed and avoid being outside for long periods of time if the smoke is particularly bad.

As all partner agencies monitor the incident the Council will update the social media communications message and I will keep you all updated.


Regards,
Scott

Scott Kennedy

Team Manager – Emergency Planning and Resilience

Protective Services, East Lothian Council,

Penston House, Macmerry Industrial Estate,

East Lothian  EH33 1EX

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